Shoutbox

Well, the only problem I see with that with PUGs unless we know and can trust the PUGs is, 1.) then they can ninja gear they dont need. 2. the gear that drops might be a bigger upgrade for someone else, preferably a guildie than the pug. 3. they accuse us of ninjaing thus dragging our name thru the mud in trade chat.

in conclusion I think a 200/100 main/off would work better. Ive seen it work in other groups.

Note: please forgive me for my horrid grammer and punctuation Im writing rather fast. : )

The problem I see arising is that players who don't or can't raid with the core group consistently have the potential of being passed over for loot. I think that a good system for rolling should be MS-200 OS-100 but for each successive Main Spec win that a player gets per raid they should get, say, -10 off their next MS roll *that night*

So say if Player 1 and 2 are both ret paladins, and both MS roll on a piece off Morchok. Paladin 2 wins the roll. Nothing drops off of skittles and ping pong bosses, but a piece drops off Hagara they could both use and would be an upgrade for both of them. They both roll MS, and Paladin 1 rolls 156. Paladin 2 rolls 165, but since he won the gear off Morchok, he takes a -10 penalty and ends up with 155. Paladin 1 gets the loot, and also takes a -10 penalty on his next MS roll that night. Since Paladin 2 didn't win the Hagara gear, he's still at a -10 penalty on MS rolls for the night, too.
Next week, they both go in with no penalty.

I'm not sure that free rolling is always a good thing. A system should probably be in place to even out loot distribution a bit. So perhaps rolls for the first item someone receives and then maybe loot council for any subsequent item that player may be eligible for just so we don't run the risk of someone winning 8 items a week or some junk. Since we aren't a hardcore progression guild it isn't as important to focus on gearing specific players purely for the sake of progression in the shortest amount of time possible. I feel that as long as loot distribution stays fairly balanced so every raider feels like they are being rewarded for their contributions each week raids will feel a lot more fun in general and I assume that is the general intent as far as our guilds concerned.

ok so i didnt really read all this but heres how i see it. So we have like 3 options
1)dkp- no one likes this and i think its an awful idea because it encorages drama and alot of scrambling to get the most points and alot of favoritism so thats bad

2) 1 main roll, 1 off roll, and one token roll- i personally think this is the best idea, it the most fair system in my opinion. in my experience it gets the most people gear and generally makes everyone happy.

3)biggest upgrade=gets the loot- i really dont like this idea personally. because if u come in as the lowest geared toon ur going to get all the loot and leave the best gear toon. i think this will just piss everyone off becaue just one person could get all the loot or like say u come in very geared and uv been trying for this one piece fr forever, normally ud get a fair roll with everyone but with this thats not the case it just goes to who can use it most and in my opinion thats not very fair, everyone deserves a roll, we all came and we all helped.

and of course theres the system we're on right now so i didnt really list it cuz its in currrent use, which is open roll. its a good system and pretty fair but it affords people to get more than one item if multiple can use the things their rolling on so i think 1main,1off,1token is still a lil more fair to all the raiders. these r just my opinions tho and im not a ruling body